Showing posts with label Home Run Derby. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Home Run Derby. Show all posts

Friday, July 12, 2013

MLB at the Break: 2nd half thoughts & The Derby - Part two


MLB at the Break: 2nd half thoughts & The Derby - Part two
by Dan Salem and Todd Salem (7-12-13)

[Part one - Let's knock some Dingers!]



DAN:
True, true, the Home Run Derby has the stars. It would definitely stink without them, but you missed on your analogy. The Home Run Derby isn't repetitive, its completely different than the NBA dunk contest! The goal of the HR derby is to hit as many home runs as possible. That goal gets amazing and awesome when a guy is hitting dinger after dinger, fifteen, sixteen or more out of the park. It works in reverse too, as everyone wants the player to get at least one homer. That's a great show!

To compare it to the NBA dunk contest we have to change the rules. What if the HR Derby's objective was to hit the longest long ball? Each HR gets measured and the player has ten chances for the longest dinger. That's boring and that's what the dunk contest has become. Do your wildest and craziest dunk and then get a score for it. You have three shots, or whatever. This worked with the stars involved only because it was the stars, not because the idea itself is a good one. The NBA Dunk contest should copy what works for the MLB Home Run Derby. Give a player sixty seconds and let him dunk away. How many dunks will he get? Does he clang a few off the rim and will that cost him the crown? I love this new idea! I'd like to replace David Stern now, thank you.

Let's move on. How about that second half of the season coming up? You know, the half that matters. When we find out if a team is actually good or not. I'm liking the Dodgers chances right now of fulfilling my prophecy from May 1st and making the playoffs.


TODD:
All that gibberish about multiple dunks and long home runs sounded just awful. But it did remind me of something actually interesting! Remember how in those "MLB The Show" video games they had a mini-game where there were locations on the field or items on the field that batters had to hit? It was like a non-home run derby, batting accuracy I suppose. Anyways, it was great fun and I would be totally in if they ever televised a real one, just to see who had the best bat control. I know this doesn't help the dunk contest but, come on, the most dunks in 60 seconds? Really?

Real quick, before we move on to the second half of the MLB season, David Wright and Robinson Cano picked their derby teammates. Wright went with Carlos Gonzalez (leads the NL in dingers) who was replaced by Pedro Alvarez because of injury, Bryce Harper (currently ranks second in the NL in awesomeness after Yasiel Puig) and Michael Cuddyer (apparently a hometown/childhood buddy of Wright's so we get it, tossing his friend a bone). Cano chose Prince Fielder (past derby king), Chris Davis (ML leader in home runs) and ... that's it. Supposedly he's asked Miguel Cabrera as well, but Miggy is waiting to see if his back is going to be healthy enough. If it isn't, who knows who Cano will take with him?

Update: The AL's final derby spot has been taken by Cuban phenom Yoenis Cespedes, who, I suppose, is literally the next best thing to getting Yasiel Puig in this thing.

I think the AL wins in a landslide but, individually, I kind of like Harper. I could see him going Josh Hamilton circa 2008 on this bitch (Of course, astute readers will recall that Hamilton actually lost that year's derby to Justin Morneau, but whatevs). With that being said, if we were to rank the contestants in likelihood of victory, the AL has to have something like three of the top four favorites.

Now, onto the real baseball coming up. The AL East looks like it is rounding into shape. Unfortunately for us, that shape has the Yankees in fourth place. Unless Jeter and A-Rod return with a vengeance, this team is not making the playoffs. They simply cannot score runs. I personally wouldn't mind if they dealt away one of their starting pitchers for a young bat, but that isn't exactly a Yankee thing to do. It wouldn't be quitting on the season either necessarily, since they have seven legit starting pitchers in line for the second half. But still, the Yankees are not ones to trade for prospects or deal away a strength.

The other AL team we are keeping our eyes on, the Angels, sit just 1.5 games behind the Dodgers! This impressive run LA has gone on has been matched nearly game for game by...LA. Now sure, the Angels are actually 9 games behind in the AL West, and stand little chance of making the playoffs. But you should not benefit by the suckiness of the NL West. Just because San Francisco has fallen off a cliff, Colorado came back to what we expected and San Diego stinks, does not mean you should get credit if the Dodgers make the playoffs. This is why I wanted it to be a strict record comparison: who finishes with a better record. Who cares about the standings? That's all arbitrary, like a win for a starting pitcher. Too much is out of their hands as far as a win goes. It's all about the xFIP baby! Get rid of those factors out of your control and hold a real apples to apples comparison. Or are you scared the Angels are going to pass your Dodgers? In other news, Matt Kemp is on the DL AGAIN.


DAN:
Apples to Apples is all well and good, if not a tiresome board game after thirty minutes. But I'm sorry, you can have your Angels sitting at seven games over .500 and out of the playoffs come season's end. I'll take the Dodgers at a mere three games over .500, in first place in the NL West and heading to the post season. Hmm. I wonder which will be considered a successful season? The team that sits at home in October, or the one that won its division and is playing for a championship. The Dodgers are only 1.5 games out of first, by the way.

Also, let me throw your argument further back in your face. Yes, the NL West is a significantly weaker division than the AL West. That is non debatable. But comparing the two divisions is hypocritical and is apples to oranges. The Dodgers don't get to choose their competition, they only have the simple goal of being better than them. Same with the Angels. Prediction, the Dodgers and Angels finish with identical records. The Angels sit at home and the Dodgers head to the playoffs as division champs. That way I win without your asterisk.

More importantly, Derek Jeter returned to action yesterday with a solid performance at DH. So check off number one on your list please, assuming his MRI is negative. The Yankees' offense can be offensive, but its also quite powerful. Overall its been streaky, but with dominant starting pitching only improving down the stretch, I'm confident in our guys winning enough one and two run games to pull out a playoff spot. They may have to win the wild card game (thank you new system), but I'm fine with that.

In October what wins year after year? Its pitching. Hitting goes cold and pitching wins. Our hitting is already cold, so it can only heat up.  And last I checked the Yankees have a solid rotation and a stacked bullpen. I like our chances!





Monday, July 8, 2013

MLB at the Break: Let's knock some Dingers - Part one



MLB at the Break: Let's knock some Dingers - Part one
by Dan Salem and Todd Salem (7-08-13)



TODD:
Oy, this is embarrassing.

The 2013 MLB All-Star game rosters were announced over the weekend and they are, to be honest, pretty perfect.

There are so few mistakes it's just picking nits to go through them. Sure Carlos Gomez should be starting. I mean, he leads all of baseball in WAR. But he still made the team. As did your boy Andrew McCutchen and my two shortstops, Everth Cabrera and Jean Segura. And everyone's favorite flash in the pan, Yasiel Puig is going to make it as well. Putting him in the final five fan vote was kind of brilliant. It takes all the pressure off of the manager to select him, while knowing he is still going to make the roster. There isn't a major problem with anything on the entire National League roster.

On the AL side, things look pretty clean as well. The starting lineup is fine, considering the steady decline this past month exhibited by Alex Rios. My only beef comes in the form of the AL outfield reserves. Torii Hunter did not deserve to make this team. Ben Zobrist has been okay this season; same goes for Alex Gordon. I would have much rather seen Jacoby Ellsbury or Brett Gardner or both in a couple of those spots. But if the only thing we can gripe about is the reserves of one position of one league, the rosters are pretty damn excellent. Other than, you know, the fact that the American League final roster spot to vote on is between five middle relievers. How lame is that?

Two important questions come to mind. First, can we go back and edit last week's post to make it seem like we were aiming for a reverse jinx here? By exclaiming where America was going to mess up, we were really just trying to align the baseball gods to give us a great set of teams. Drop the "Mission Accomplished!" banner!

Secondly, which team looks better, i.e. who is going to win this thing?


DAN:
Reverse Jinx baby! It worked and I'm totally taking credit for our tag team reverse fan voting jinx. The fans did a good job! I'm disappointed that neither Ellsbury or Gardner made the team (especially Gardner), but when we only have reserves to complain about you know something got done right. Only having a slew of middle relief pitchers to pick from for the American League final roster spot is a result of the stellar fan voting. David Robertson all the way baby! Puig is our National League guy. He better be. I'm flying the "Mission Accomplished" banner proudly outside my front door.

About the men on the field and who will secure home field advantage for their league come championship time. That honor will belong to the team from the American League.

It's all about pitching baby. Both leagues have stellar offenses to showcase, but the All-Star arms for the AL are kind of amazing. King Felix Hernandez, Yu Darvish, Justin Verlander, Max Scherzer and Clay Buchholz (to name more than a few) handing things over to Mariano Rivera is lights out. Sure, sure, the NL offense will grab a run or three, but this rotation is shut down. Two innings per guy is more than one game, so doing some rudimentary math leads to an American League victory. AL wins five runs to three.

I feel like the All-Star game always falls second fiddle to the real deal derby the night before, the Home Run Derby. I LOVE this event! Its stayed fun and fresh year after year. The NBA should take a page from Major League Baseball to fix its dunk, read stunk, competition. What makes the HR derby so great is each participant is playing for charity. You have one fan per player sitting and cheering their guy on in the hopes of winning a new house. How awesome! They are beyond super fans, with a new home for their family at stake. Add to that the players' kids running around and high fiving their dads after a dinger. The excitement is palpable. Oh, and "Back, back, back" still makes me smile. Can't wait!

Got any requests for Robinson Cano and David Wright? They have yet to pick their teams, which is another tremendous idea in itself.


TODD:
Hold on, let me first disagree with your All-star game pick. I actually think the AL has slightly better bats, but the National League has the loaded starting pitching. You can take those five from the AL; I'd rather have Clayton Kershaw, Matt Harvey, Adam Wainwright, Cliff Lee and Madison Bumgarner. Put it this way, if the managers run this thing like past years where the starters are rotated out by the third inning and they try to play as many guys as possible, the NL is going to win. The only chance the American League has is if Miguel Cabrera, Chris Davis, Trout and some of those other starters play nine innings. The AL reserves are not scoring against that pitching staff. Mark it down.

I'm with you though on the Home Run Derby. It is the main attraction. Just like the NBA, MLB's excitement showcase is the event before the All-Star game. I think the dunk contest is getting a bad rap though. Is it really that bad? 'We've seen every dunk imaginable so dunks get repetitive.' That is the main argument against it. How can anything be more repetitive than a home run derby? It is literally the same thing over and over. And sure they play for charity and they have the specific fan for each guy. That's all well and good. But you missed the biggest draw. The reason people still love the derby but are down on the dunk contest is because the top tier stars still do the derby! The dunk contest is low-name and no-name athletes who won't be ridiculed if they miss. There is no such fear from the Major Leaguers that they might get a goose egg. That's what I like.

Cano has it easy here picking the AL squad. He has to pick Chris Davis and Miguel Cabrera. No-brainers. With his final slot, I'd personally love to see Jose Bautista. Wright does not have it so easy. The NL field is wide open. At the moment, the top guys in the NL in home runs are Carlos Gonzalez (24), Dominic Brown (23), and Pedro Alvarez (22). None of those guys tip my interest all that much. Here's the trio I would personally like to see: Bryce Harper, Joey Votto and...Yasiel Puig! Sure, I didn't want him on my starting roster but I sure as hell want to see him sock a few dingers! Make it happen Wright.